You are here

MOC Forums

Subscribe to MOC Forums feed
Live information from Michigan Open Carry, Inc.
Updated: 9 min 33 sec ago

Re: MSNBC Open Carry Poll votes needed

2 hours 23 min ago
"But as you need a permit, it's still not a right. You can't license a"right""

...nor can you tax it. But try telling that to the NFA Branch, or to the Excise Tax collectors, or even the state sales tax divisions.
IMO, sales and excise taxes on guns a...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

3 hours 5 min ago
Quote from: freediver on Today at 09:05:40 AMAs far as petty theft, and guns in cars and RVs, yes, it is your problem, because it's YOUR gun. This is the concept of personal responsibility that I've been talking about. Wit...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

3 hours 38 min ago
Mr Linux203: My point about the 2nd amendment is two-fold. First, obviously the founding fathers foresaw some sort of Regulation being necessary to keep the whole idea of gun ownership from dissolving into chaos and anarchy. So, when gun owners say tha...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

3 hours 48 min ago
Mr Gryphon: Yes, I have studied the Federalist Papers and the Magna Carta. It has been awhile, and I'm not sure how they would be relevant to our discussion about gun safety and ownership in our modern age.
As far as petty theft, and guns in cars and R...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

12 hours 25 min ago
Psst...don't tell freediver about the Federalist Papers, or even the Magna Carta.

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 23:46
Quote from: freediver on Yesterday at 10:51:07 AMThe founding fathers wrote: "A WELL-REGULATED MILITIA, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to bear arms, shall not be infringed." Obviously ...

Re: Florida cop tries to grab OCer's gun

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 19:32
Quote from: TheQ on Today at 11:37:47 AMAccording to the social media policy page (mentioned in the Sticky in General Discussion) purple is the generally accepted color indicating sarcasm.

Really?[/c...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 17:28
Your argument about so-called assault rifles is the same one the Democrats used in 1995 in an attempt to ban sniper rifles that would have, in effect, banned all big game hunting rifles like .308, .338, 7mm, etc.  They are rifles used by the military t...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 16:06
Mr Gryphon: A good point about the safes. i would say that these gun owners were very, very responsible and should be commended for their storage options. I would disagree with your contention that any old saber saw will get through a safe. I've been s...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 15:55
Mr TucTom: Yes, I do use the term assault rifles. Because that is what they are, and that is what they have been called since I entered the military in 1974. They are accurately named because they were originally designed for military use, for assaulti...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 15:00
Most gun crime is done with handguns which already have universal background checks.  Only long guns don't, and LG crime is barely on the radar.

And locked storage?  You can get inside of almost any safe in about a minute with a battery powered sabre s...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 13:40
Why would you say there were "assault rifles" at the garage sale? With this statement you are furthering the anti gun crowds "use fearful words" tactics. Are you sure there wasn't just an AR15 for sale? Which is not an assault rifle btw.

Btw I do love ...

Re: MSNBC Open Carry Poll votes needed

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 13:38
Quote from: CitizensHaveRights on Today at 01:00:27 PMApparently MSNBC's default position is "ban open carry everywhere", then the poll question is whether we support new laws to overturn the ban.

But, AFAIK, Michigan nev...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 13:14
Mr Gryphon, my intent is not to "crack down" on gun owners. My intent is to stem the flow of illegal weapons to criminals. Let's assume for a second that every initial purchase of a firearm is a legal one. Yet thousands of guns flow every year into the...

Re: MSNBC Open Carry Poll votes needed

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 13:00
Quote from: birddseedd on Today at 10:34:19 AMI read it as "laws allowing Open carry" considering that most states have legislation along those lines. Dumb as it is.

Apparently MSNBC's default position is "ban ope...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 12:33
You want to stop crime by cracking down on law-abiding gun owners.  We'll have to agree to disagree.

Re: Florida cop tries to grab OCer's gun

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 11:37
Quote from: CitizensHaveRights on June 27, 2015, 02:24:22 PMWhile I might enjoy fantasizing about putting a 380 HP in that douche's foot before helping him fall into Tampa Bay, that's not what I said.

What I meant was that the ...

Re: Everytown for Gun Safety: We Won’t Debate Because Our Opponents Aren’t Credible

Tue, 06/30/2015 - 10:51
Mr Hammurabi: I think we may differ on the definition of "the right to bear arms". A lot of gun enthusiasts feel that the right to carry a firearm should be completely unfettered, and that any attempt to regulate firearms somehow infringes on their rig...

Pages