My wife had Oral surgery this AM in Monroe and as we were leaving for the doctors office she bellows..........."you don't need to bring those GD things with you, its a doctors office, nothing is going to happen there"
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-- Vote could occur as early as Wednesday
On April 28, the Montana Legislature adjourned sine die. Governor Brian Schweitzer signed into law three pro-gun bills, each of which will go into effect on October 1. Two other pro-gun bills failed to pass during the 2011 legislative session.
I have made a document to try to help explain the law regarding guns in casinos. I have made it to the best of my knowledge and understanding of the confusion about guns in casinos but figured I'd put it on here before I used it as a way to show and explain to people. If I am incorrect please tell me so I can make the proper changes. Here is what I came up with:
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As taught on a video made for CPL classes and the MSP website guns are banned from casinos in Michigan. This is only partially true. Under the concealed carry act where guns are prohibited it does not even mention casinos.
28.425o Premises on which carrying concealed weapon prohibited; premises defined; exceptions to subsection (1); violation; penalties.
Sec. 5o. (1) Subject to subsection (4), an individual licensed under this act to carry a concealed pistol, or who is exempt from licensure under section 12a(1)(f), shall not carry a concealed pistol on the premises of any of the following:
(a) A school or school property except that a parent or legal guardian of a student of the school is not precluded from carrying a concealed pistol while in a vehicle on school property, if he or she is dropping the student off at the school or picking up the child from the school. As used in this section, "school" and "school property" mean those terms as defined in section 237a of the Michigan penal code, 1931 PA 328, MCL 750.237a.
(b) A public or private child care center or day care center, public or private child caring institution, or public or private child placing agency.
(c) A sports arena or stadium.
(d) A bar or tavern licensed under the Michigan liquor control code of 1998, 1998 PA 58, MCL 436.1101 to 436.2303, where the primary source of income of the business is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass and consumed on the premises. This subdivision does not apply to an owner or employee of the business. The
Michigan liquor control commission shall develop and make available to holders of licenses under the Michigan liquor control code of 1998, 1998 PA 58, MCL 436.1101 to 436.2303, an appropriate sign stating that "This establishment prohibits patrons from carrying concealed weapons". The owner or operator of an establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control code of 1998, 1998 PA 58, MCL 436.1101 to 436.2303, may, but is not required to, post the sign developed under this subdivision. A record made available by an establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control code of 1998, 1998 PA 58, MCL 436.1101 to 436.2303, necessary to enforce this subdivision is exempt from disclosure under the freedom of information act, 1976 PA 442, MCL 15.231 to 15.246.
(e) Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official or officials of the church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship permit the carrying of concealed pistol on that property or facility.
(f) An entertainment facility with a seating capacity of 2,500 or more individuals that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more individuals or that has a sign above each public entrance stating in letters not less than 1-inch high a seating capacity of 2,500 or more individuals.
(g) A hospital.
(h) A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university.
The law that they are trying to refer to is the administrative rules made by the Michigan Gaming Control Board, which gets its authority from the Michigan Gaming Control and Revenue act. The board made this administrative rule:
R 432.1212 Weapons in casino.
Rule 212. (1) An individual may not carry a firearm or other weapon in a casino, except for the following entities:
(a) State, county, city, township, or village law enforcement officers, as defined in section 2(e) of Act No. 203 of the Public Acts of 1965, as amended, being § 28.601 et seq. of the Michigan Compiled Laws.
(b) Federal law enforcement officers, as defined in 5 U.S.C. § 8331.
(c) Armored car personnel picking up or delivering currency at secured areas.
(2) Law enforcement officers conducting official duties within a casino shall, to the extent practicable, advise the Michigan state police gaming section of their presence.
(3) Private casino security personnel may carry handcuffs while on duty in a casino.
Looking at this one would think this would apply to all casinos in Michigan. This would be incorrect. The Michigan Gaming Control and Revenue act only applies to three privately owned casinos within the city of Detroit and created the Michigan Gaming Control Board to oversee those casinos. Since other casinos in Michigan are tribal and not controlled under this act, 432.1212 does not apply to them and the tribes are able to make their own laws regarding guns in their casinos or on tribal land in general.
CBS News has obtained secretly recorded conversations that raise questions as to whether some evidence is being withheld in the murder of a Border Patrol agent.
The tapes were recorded approximately mid March 2011 by the primary gun dealer cooperating with ATF in its "Fast and Furious" operation: Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company in Glendale, Arizona. He's talking with the lead case ATF case agent Hope MacAllister.
The state's new prohibition on most local gun restrictions has some cities and counties rolling back their ordinances.
The Conservative government will introduce legislation this fall to kill the controversial long gun registry, according to government House leader Peter Van Loan.
"We committed to eliminate once and for all the wasteful and ineffective long gun registry. We will keep that commitment," Van Loan told reporters Monday. "It will be an item of legislation we will deal with in this fall session."
On April 17, when Governor Sean Parnell adjourned the Alaska Legislature, there were four pro-gun bills left pending from the 2011 legislative session. Due to Alaska’s two-year sessions, all pending 2011 bills will carry over and be considered in 2012.
The Nevada Division of State Parks will hold a public hearing on the Nevada Administrative Code’s (NAC) change of regulation to allow for the carrying of firearms in state parks, per the 2011 statutory changes mandated in Assembly Bill 282. The Division proposes to amend NAC Chapter 407, Section 105 to remove prohibitions against possession of a firearm in state parks and to clarify prohibitive firearms discharge to specifically recognize the right to self-defense. This proposal can be downloaded here.
During the 2011 Regular Session of the Mississippi Legislature, House Bill 506, legislation relating to prosecutors carrying weapons, passed with an NRA-supported amendment designed to allow concealed pistol permit holders who complete certain training requirements to protect themselves in locations previously prohibited by law. This measure, was signed into law by Governor Haley Barbour on March 11.
Hypothetical (Michigan law applies)
Parameters: Husband and wife BOTH have CPLs.
All handguns are registered to Husband.
Two handguns are loaded and are in the center consol of car.
Assume husband has a BAL of over 0.02
Scene: Husband and wife go out to dinner. Husband has 3 alcoholic drinks (Within an hours time) with dinner. Wife does not drink alcohol. After dinner they enter the car and drive home. The wife is driving. Both guns are still loaded and in the console.
The couple gets pulled over and the LEO approaches driver side and the wife states she has a CPL and has guns in the console.
The husband does not say a word throughout the stop.
Question: Is the husband lawful in his silence?
Discuss.
You can also add that the handguns were run (For whatever reason) and the owner was the husband.
On Gov. Jerry Brown's desk is a bid to bar Californians from openly carrying firearms, legislation that could open a new front in the state's decades old gun control debate.
While demand for concealed carry licenses cooled a little last year in the Sunshine State, interest heated up among women. Area gun stores reported a surge in female attendance in concealed weapon courses, a requirement for the license. Gun sales to women also shot up, bucking stereotype that says only men buy, own and carry firearms.
It's a question of fairness.
That's what supporters of a move to legalize Sunday hunting in Pennsylvania -- banned since 1873 -- said at a gathering of the state House of Representatives' game and fisheries committee near Allentown on Thursday night.
